Low Toxin Testimonials From Hypertension to Liberation: How Mag-Ka Spray Changed My Life

[DanDare]

I live in Denmark. high consumption of milk, but also high osteoporosis. Connection?

That website I spoke of would really help answer. I am also searching for a documentary I watched a decade or so ago which looked at vit a fortification in a Scandinavian country, can't remember which, and linked it to cancer.

 

[Makrosky]

You'll have to balance how worried you are about glycoalkaloids ( helpfully a bitter taste) . Personally I normally boil in water then reduce it to the point where I don't need to discard much. I avoid potatoes that have sprouted or are green and peel. If I bake in oven I don't eat skins.
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Thank you

 

[Jabuger]

It's one of those examples where his general line of thought was correct (he often stressed that magnesium needs to be favored relative to calcium) but his practical application actually contradicted what he was trying to achieve.

I think his argument was more along the lines of “a hypothyroid person will lose magnesium very quickly therefore will need a lot more yet a high functioning thyroid person retain magnesium and therefore need less of it. I heard him say this quite a lot though I don’t remember him talking about any sort of magnesium to calcium ratio, he focused a lot more on calcium to phosphorus as many of us know.

This is probably what leads to his recommendation of a moderate magnesium source instead of anything particularly high. He also recommended leafy green vegetables and coffee for magnesium.

 

[mosaic01]

I don’t remember him talking about any sort of magnesium to calcium ratio, he focused a lot more on calcium to phosphorus as many of us know.

"If this is the situation in the nerves in MS, it explains the strange behavior, in which warming the nerve reduces its function. The implication is that internal structure (and energy) must be restored to the nerves. In experiments that I have described in previous newsletters, increasing sodium, ATP, carbon dioxide, and progesterone, and increasing the ratio of magnesium to calcium, have been found to increase cellular energy and structure. The thyroid hormone is ultimately responsible for maintaining cells' energy and structure, and responsiveness, but if it is increased suddenly without allowing all the other factors to adjust, it will raise the temperature too suddenly. It needn't take a long time, but all the factors have to be present at the same time."

Multiple sclerosis, protein, fats, and progesterone

Ray Peat

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The reason he recommended fruit juice for magnesium I think is because he said fructose helps with mineral retention.​

 

[Aleksandr]

Hello everyone,

I began experiencing extremely high blood pressure shortly after starting the Ray Peat diet, and I struggled to find a solution. For those unaware, excessive calcium can lead to high blood pressure, posing a serious risk of heart attacks, which I often felt. Fearful of exacerbating my condition, I refrained from exercise, and sleepless nights due to insomnia only worsened my blood pressure, creating a distressing cycle.

Thankfully, my situation improved rapidly when I started using @charlie's Mag-Ka spray. Here's the recipe:

For every cup of spirit alcohol (I used distilled 40% vodka, avoiding rubbing alcohol), mix:

- 2 cups of magnesium chloride flakes
- 1 tablespoon of potassium chloride
- 1/8 cup of water

After mixing the alcohol and magnesium chloride with a hand blender, add the potassium chloride and water, ensuring thorough mixing. Transfer the blend into a spray bottle for convenient use.

Personally, I find pouring the solution into my hand first and then onto my skin to be more effective and avoids the spray getting onto the floor. Other magnesium forms, like topical DMSO, proved unpleasant, causing skin irritation and yielding minimal results when taken orally.

While some may find this controversial, I applied the spray every two to four hours, noticing gradual improvements after each use. My hypertension, developed on the RP diet and endured for a year and a half, nearly vanished within two days of consistent application. Though I occasionally experience symptoms, particularly during stressful episodes like insomnia, they pale in comparison to previous experiences.

Based on my overwhelmingly positive experience with the Mag-Ka spray recommended by @charlie, Dr. Garrett Smith, and the Low-Toxin community, I wholeheartedly recommend it. Don't hesitate to gather the ingredients and give it a try.

interesting, out of curiosity what areas of the body are you spraying? if you spray, lets say your arm, over and over again does it over saturate or would it be better to try to spray the whole body evenly?

 

[Sebastian B]

@m_arch

I sprayed it everywhere because it's alcohol-based. Spraying on the same spot could cause irritation from the alcohol. For emphasis, I want to reiterate that using this spray generously for a few days nearly completely reversed the hypertension I had developed on the Ray Peat diet over the past two years. Now, I apply it just once a day, usually on my torso or thighs and knees. But if someone were in the same situation I was in, I would have no problem recommending applying it every few hours. However, I've also heard that long magnesium chloride baths can be very effective, and you won't have to rub alcohol all over your body.

 

[Ashs]

Fantastic! Another person saved from the destructive elements of the Ray Peat diet! Me and @Blossom both got extremely high blood pressure from the Ray Peat diet suggestions. We are both doing fine now thanks to pulling out of that toxic mess. There is a person in the Facebook groups right now who's blood pressure is constantly rising from the Ray Peat dietary suggestions and you should see the cope in that thread, mental gymnastics everywhere.

I've been using the 'mag-ka' spray for a few months now, but after about 2 hrs I feel very itchy where the spray was applied. I'm still persisting though.
Anyone else experience this, is it because of the alcohol, is there anything else I can do to avoid the itching. Thanks.

 

[charlie]

Anyone else experience this, is it because of the alcohol, is there anything else I can do to avoid the itching. Thanks.

It is likely from the magnesium chloride. Some people find adding a tablespoon or two of glycerin to the MAGA POT stops this.

 

[purple pill]

I've been using the 'mag-ka' spray for a few months now, but after about 2 hrs I feel very itchy where the spray was applied. I'm still persisting though.
Anyone else experience this, is it because of the alcohol, is there anything else I can do to avoid the itching. Thanks.

I was always concerned about putting the mag-ka in a spray bottle as it would be in contact with plastic. Guessing the alcohol would leach from it pretty well...even considered a glass bottle spray but the tubes for these and spray mechanism are still made from plastic.
Not sure if this is a real concern but just putting it out there....I make mine up in a pint glass and take a tablespoon out at a time into my hands before rubbing on my skin, bit messy but gives me peace of mind.

 

[Ashs]

It is likely from the magnesium chloride. Some people find adding a tablespoon or two of glycerin to the MAGA POT stops this.

Thanks Charlie, I will get some glycerine today, and I'll give you an update after using it. I hope it will work for me.
Is there any downside to using 'glycerine ' that I should be aware of though.

 

[charlie]

Is there any downside to using 'glycerine ' that I should be aware of though.

I am not sure. I have used it myself on occasion but I am not sure if its an issue topically.

 

[Ashs]

I am not sure. I have used it myself on occasion but I am not sure if its an issue topically.

I am not sure. I have used it myself on occasion but I am not sure if its an issue topically.

No worries Charlie, I getting some later, that itching was the only deterrent but now hopefully I could look forward to applying it. Cheers.

 

[Matthew]

Exactly. I knew I'd be these foods.

I was buying acid especially to remove limescale build up in my toilet while following the 1 to 2 litres of milk a day, all while my facial hair rapidly turned white. I have my own toilet and tend to not flush unless it is a no. 2.

Now off the 'Ray Peat diet' and my limescale isn't an issue anymore. Funny that. Must have been eliminating tonnes of excess calcium.

Do you think the increase in white hair was because of the milk? Calcium raising the metabolism and the body needing more copper and not getting enough? I noticed more grey hair when I drank a lot of milk and also when I took Biotin.

 

[Matthew]

I saw person after person getting hurt with the diet recommendations including myself and @Blossom. Then I saw people going to the low "vitamin A" and low toxin groups and getting relief and healing. @Blossom figured it out by accident and started healing before all the low A stuff got big.

I made the move and dove in myself and found relief. I gave it a couple years because I had to be sure before I mentioned it much here. Enough was enough, too many people getting hurt with Ray Peat's dietary suggestions, and many people finding relief in the low toxin groups.

I could not take it anymore and started bringing awareness to the forum. I was immediately met with "shut down the forum", "you are spitting on Ray Peat's grave", "this is the Ray Peat forum, there is no Ray Peat diet!" "you and this forum will be torn from limb to limb". It was quite the backlash. When this resistance was meet, I then started the forum on a detox and as you can see things are going great now and the air is fresh. We can now focus on the work at hand as we forge forward with this newfound knowledge. We are stagnant no longer, the toxins have been cleared and the future is brighter then ever.

Some people definitely have an issue with clearing chloride so it must be taken into consideration.

No worries. The balance will be found and is the process we are working on now.

I got major problems with my teeth with the orange juice. I was drinking about a pint a day and thought my teeth will be ok because I was also drinking a litre of milk a day. I thought the calcium will keep my teeth nourished so I can get away with a lot of orange juice. About 2 months later, had a dentist appointment -- I was told I had 8 cavaties.

 

[DanDare]

Do you think the increase in white hair was because of the milk? Calcium raising the metabolism and the body needing more copper and not getting enough? I noticed more grey hair when I drank a lot of milk and also when I took Biotin.

No I don't I think it was probably just making me anaemic.

 

[Matthew]

No I don't I think it was probably just making me anaemic.

Milk was making you anaemic? How so?

 

[Sebastian B]

I got major problems with my teeth with the orange juice. I was drinking about a pint a day and thought my teeth will be ok because I was also drinking a litre of milk a day. I thought the calcium will keep my teeth nourished so I can get away with a lot of orange juice. About 2 months later, had a dentist appointment -- I was told I had 8 cavaties.

Stop consuming sugar (including fruit, fruit juice, and milk) and replace it with complex fibrous carbs like whole grains, beans, and vegetables.

 

[Matthew]

Stop consuming sugar (including fruit, fruit juice, and milk) and replace it with complex fibrous carbs like whole grains, beans, and vegetables.

Thanks Sebastian. I have changed -- Cut greatly down on the orange juice, swill my mouth with water whenever I consume sugar, taking Vit D/K/A.

 

[DanDare]

Milk was making you anaemic? How so?

It doesn't contain much iron and interferes with iron absorption

The Consequence of Excessive Consumption of Cow’s Milk: Protein-Losing Enteropathy with Anasarca in the Course of Iron Deficiency Anemia—Case Reports and a Literature Review - PMC

Cow’s milk is a key component of a child’s diet. While the consumption of even trace amounts can result in allergy to its proteins and/or hypolactasia, excessive cow’s milk consumption can result in numerous health complications, including iron ...

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